Stock Xbox360 drives - Revision history

User7 at 03:36, 9 June 2025

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	Specific models of stock Xbox360 disc drives pulled from consoles are capable of dumping discs for redump (sometimes referred to as "0800" drives).		Specific models of stock Xbox360 disc drives pulled from consoles are capable of dumping discs for redump (sometimes referred to as "0800" drives).

-	Previously, these stock drives were required for getting the SS (security sector) from XGD3 discs, however this is no longer the case when using the latest version of redumper (build 597 or later) and ZZ01 or DC02 revisions of the [[Optical Disc Drive ~~Firmware~~\|Kreon firmware]]. There is no benefit to using stock Xbox360 drives and we do not recommend anyone purchase these drives for redump (unless submitting to abgx360 is your primary goal). See [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|here]] for information about the preferred drives to dump Xbox/Xbox360 discs.	+	Previously, these stock drives were required for getting the SS (security sector) from XGD3 discs, however this is no longer the case when using the latest version of redumper (build 597 or later) and ZZ01 or DC02 revisions of the [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|Kreon firmware]]. There is no benefit to using stock Xbox360 drives and we do not recommend anyone purchase these drives for redump (unless submitting to abgx360 is your primary goal). See [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|here]] for information about the preferred drives to dump Xbox/Xbox360 discs.

	'''The below information is old and may be incorrect, and many sources have been removed from the internet. Proceed only if you are comfortable working with hardware and computers.'''		'''The below information is old and may be incorrect, and many sources have been removed from the internet. Proceed only if you are comfortable working with hardware and computers.'''

Deterous at 11:15, 4 June 2025

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-	\| NOTE: While ~~you can get perfectly good~~ dumps with ~~the 0800 method~~, it is cheaper to buy a [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|Kreon drive]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].	+	\| NOTE: While dumps with stock Xbox360 drives are compatible with redumper, it is cheaper and easier to buy a [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|Kreon drive]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].
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-	~~The '''0800''' series~~ of ~~optical~~ disc drives ~~are~~ pulled from ~~Xbox 360~~ consoles~~. Some models~~ are ~~compatible with Xbox 360~~ discs~~. What makes the~~ 0800 ~~dumping-compatible~~ drives ~~so special is that they're the only drives that can dump Xbox 360 discs which have XGD3 copy protection~~.	+	Specific models of stock Xbox360 disc drives pulled from consoles are capable of dumping discs for redump (sometimes referred to as "0800" drives).

-	~~Most of this information needs to be verified~~ for ~~accuracy~~, and to ~~see if it can be simplified in any way~~. ~~Of particular note~~: ~~Find out~~ the ~~most reliable flashing setup~~, and if ~~modern or 64 bit versions of Windows~~ are ~~viable to use~~.	+	Previously, these stock drives were required for getting the SS (security sector) from XGD3 discs, however this is no longer the case when using the latest version of redumper (build 597 or later) and ZZ01 or DC02 revisions of the [[Optical Disc Drive Firmware\|Kreon firmware]]. There is no benefit to using stock Xbox360 drives and we do not recommend anyone purchase these drives for redump (unless submitting to abgx360 is your primary goal). See [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|here]] for information about the preferred drives to dump Xbox/Xbox360 discs.
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		+	'''The below information is old and may be incorrect, and many sources have been removed from the internet. Proceed only if you are comfortable working with hardware and computers.'''

	==XGD3 Dumping Compatibility==		==XGD3 Dumping Compatibility==
-	* Phillips VAD6038 aka BenQ VAD6038 ~~[https://www.ebay.com/itm/141643694652 Ebay]~~	+	* Phillips VAD6038 aka BenQ VAD6038
	* Lite-On DG-16D2S		* Lite-On DG-16D2S
-	* Samsung TS-H943 ~~(0800 FW for this drive is NOT tangibly better than Kreon)~~	+	* Samsung TS-H943
	* Hitachi GDR-3120L (NOT compatible)		* Hitachi GDR-3120L (NOT compatible)
	* Lite-On DG-16D4S (NOT compatible)		* Lite-On DG-16D4S (NOT compatible)
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	==Choosing the Right Model of Xbox 360 and Removing its Drive==		==Choosing the Right Model of Xbox 360 and Removing its Drive==
-	* Only drives from ~~phat~~ 360s are compatible with the newest 0800 firmware, none of the slim 360 drives are.	+	* Only drives from "fat" 360s are compatible with the newest 0800 firmware, none of the slim 360 drives are.
	* If you are going to remove the DVD drive from a phat Xbox 360 you already have, you can check the wire colors that are behind the faceplate for an indication as to what DVD drive is inside: [https://web.archive.org/web/20191107121024/https://www.maxconsole.com/threads/how-to-determine-which-drive-you-have-in-your-xbox-360.128/ guide here].		* If you are going to remove the DVD drive from a phat Xbox 360 you already have, you can check the wire colors that are behind the faceplate for an indication as to what DVD drive is inside: [https://web.archive.org/web/20191107121024/https://www.maxconsole.com/threads/how-to-determine-which-drive-you-have-in-your-xbox-360.128/ guide here].
	* Ebay is a good source for working DVD drives pulled from Xbox 360s.		* Ebay is a good source for working DVD drives pulled from Xbox 360s.

Deterous: moved 0800 to Stock Xbox360 drives: 0800 is a nickname for a firmware for stock Xbox360 drives

2025-06-04T11:04:21Z

moved 0800 to Stock Xbox360 drives: 0800 is a nickname for a firmware for stock Xbox360 drives

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Deterous at 07:51, 26 May 2025

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	* WAVE19: 032CCF37		* WAVE19: 032CCF37
	* WAVE20: F48D24B8		* WAVE20: F48D24B8
-	* ~~XGD3#1~~: E1647069	+	* XGD3v0: E1647069
-	* XGD3#2: 26AF4C58	+	* XGD3: 26AF4C58

	[[Category:Dumping Guides]]		[[Category:Dumping Guides]]
	[[Category:Optical Disc Drives]]		[[Category:Optical Disc Drives]]

Deterous at 06:45, 25 May 2025

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	* '''CRC32/MD5/SHA1''': Use a hash program like HashCalc to get the CRC32, MD5, and SHA1 hashes of the dumped iso file.		* '''CRC32/MD5/SHA1''': Use a hash program like HashCalc to get the CRC32, MD5, and SHA1 hashes of the dumped iso file.

-	Please submit your the DMI/PFI/SS files and logs with your submissions. If using Xbox Backup Creator, you can submit the standard log. If using MPF, please submit essentially all files it generates, except for the main image files / ISO.	+	Please submit your the DMI/PFI/SS files and logs with your submissions. If using Xbox Backup Creator, you can submit the standard log. If using MPF, please submit essentially all files it generates, except for the main image files / ISO
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		+	=== PFI Hash ===
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		+	As a sanity check, the following "Waves" should have these PFI CRC-32 hashes:
		+	* WAVE0: E9B8ECFE
		+	* WAVE1: 739CEAB3
		+	* WAVE2: A4CFB59C
		+	* WAVE3: 2A4CCBD3
		+	* WAVE4: 05C6C409
		+	* WAVE5: 05C6C409
		+	* WAVE6: 05C6C409
		+	* WAVE7: 05C6C409
		+	* WAVE8: 0441D6A5
		+	* WAVE9: 0441D6A5
		+	* WAVE10: E18BC70B
		+	* WAVE11: E18BC70B
		+	* WAVE12: E18BC70B
		+	* WAVE13: 40DCB18F
		+	* WAVE14: 23A198FC
		+	* WAVE15: 23A198FC
		+	* WAVE16: AB25DB47
		+	* WAVE17: 169EF597
		+	* WAVE18: 169EF597
		+	* WAVE19: 032CCF37
		+	* WAVE20: F48D24B8
		+	* XGD3#1: E1647069
		+	* XGD3#2: 26AF4C58

	[[Category:Dumping Guides]]		[[Category:Dumping Guides]]
	[[Category:Optical Disc Drives]]		[[Category:Optical Disc Drives]]

Deterous at 07:06, 21 May 2025

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	** <b>PFI</b>: hash		** <b>PFI</b>: hash
	** <b>SS</b>: hash		** <b>SS</b>: hash
-	*** If you dumped with the 0800 method, submit the SS for XGD3 discs as <b>SSv2</b> and SS for XGD2 discs as just <b>SS</b>. (ss_sector_range will convert/downgrade original XGD2 SSv2 files to SSv1, so that 0800 drive SS files will match Kreon drive SS files). If you're not sure what type of disc you have, XGD3 discs all have a PFI CRC of 26af4c58. The rest are XGD2.
	* '''Primary Volume Descriptor (PVD)''': Open the iso file with IsoBuster. Right click on Track 1 > Sector View > type "16" in at the top, then copy the data at 0320 - 0370 (full six rows) and paste it into your dump info document.		* '''Primary Volume Descriptor (PVD)''': Open the iso file with IsoBuster. Right click on Track 1 > Sector View > type "16" in at the top, then copy the data at 0320 - 0370 (full six rows) and paste it into your dump info document.
	* '''Security Sector Ranges''': The contents of the sectors.txt file.		* '''Security Sector Ranges''': The contents of the sectors.txt file.

Deterous at 01:12, 17 April 2025

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	* '''Ring codes''': The string of characters displayed on the inner rings of the disc - please refer to the [[Ring Code Guide]] for information on the various elements and how to correctly transcribe these. Check older submissions to make sure that you report everything that is needed. Make sure you have good lighting conditions and/or a magnifying glass if you have problems reading the text. For more information about the (mould) SID codes see [https://web.archive.org/web/20190605010747/https://www.ifpi.org/content/library/sid-code-implementation-guide.pdf this link].		* '''Ring codes''': The string of characters displayed on the inner rings of the disc - please refer to the [[Ring Code Guide]] for information on the various elements and how to correctly transcribe these. Check older submissions to make sure that you report everything that is needed. Make sure you have good lighting conditions and/or a magnifying glass if you have problems reading the text. For more information about the (mould) SID codes see [https://web.archive.org/web/20190605010747/https://www.ifpi.org/content/library/sid-code-implementation-guide.pdf this link].
	* '''DMI/PFI/SS Info''': Use a hash program like HashCalc to get the CRC32 hash for the DMI.bin, PFI.bin, and SS.bin files. You should store the CRCs along with the DMI string as shown below.		* '''DMI/PFI/SS Info''': Use a hash program like HashCalc to get the CRC32 hash for the DMI.bin, PFI.bin, and SS.bin files. You should store the CRCs along with the DMI string as shown below.
-	** AV202202E0X11	+	** <b>XeMID</b>: AV202202E0X11
-	** DMI: hash	+	** <b>DMI</b>: hash
-	** PFI: hash	+	** <b>PFI</b>: hash
-	** ~~SSv1~~: hash	+	** <b>SS</b>: hash
-	*** If you dumped with the Kreon method, submit the SS as "SSv1".	+	*** If you dumped with the 0800 method, submit the SS for XGD3 discs as <b>SSv2</b> and SS for XGD2 discs as just <b>SS</b>. (ss_sector_range will convert/downgrade original XGD2 SSv2 files to SSv1, so that 0800 drive SS files will match Kreon drive SS files). If you're not sure what type of disc you have, XGD3 discs all have a PFI CRC of 26af4c58. The rest are XGD2.
-	*** If you dumped with the 0800 method, submit the SS for XGD3 discs as SSv2 and SS for XGD2 discs as ~~SSv1~~. (ss_sector_range will convert/downgrade original XGD2 SSv2 files to SSv1, so that 0800 drive SS files will match Kreon drive SS files). If you're not sure what type of disc you have, XGD3 discs all have a PFI CRC of 26af4c58. The rest are XGD2.	+
	* '''Primary Volume Descriptor (PVD)''': Open the iso file with IsoBuster. Right click on Track 1 > Sector View > type "16" in at the top, then copy the data at 0320 - 0370 (full six rows) and paste it into your dump info document.		* '''Primary Volume Descriptor (PVD)''': Open the iso file with IsoBuster. Right click on Track 1 > Sector View > type "16" in at the top, then copy the data at 0320 - 0370 (full six rows) and paste it into your dump info document.
	* '''Security Sector Ranges''': The contents of the sectors.txt file.		* '''Security Sector Ranges''': The contents of the sectors.txt file.

User7: /* XGD3 Dumping-Compatible Models */

2025-01-08T02:07:26Z

XGD3 Dumping-Compatible Models

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	Most of this information needs to be verified for accuracy, and to see if it can be simplified in any way. Of particular note: Find out the most reliable flashing setup, and if modern or 64 bit versions of Windows are viable to use.		Most of this information needs to be verified for accuracy, and to see if it can be simplified in any way. Of particular note: Find out the most reliable flashing setup, and if modern or 64 bit versions of Windows are viable to use.

-	==XGD3 Dumping~~-Compatible Models~~==	+	==XGD3 Dumping Compatibility==
	* Phillips VAD6038 aka BenQ VAD6038 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/141643694652 Ebay]		* Phillips VAD6038 aka BenQ VAD6038 [https://www.ebay.com/itm/141643694652 Ebay]
	* Lite-On DG-16D2S		* Lite-On DG-16D2S

User7 at 03:31, 11 November 2024

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-	\| NOTE: While you can get perfectly good dumps with the 0800 method, it is cheaper to buy a [[~~Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility#Xbox_.28Original.29_.26_Xbox_360~~\|Kreon drive]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].	+	\| NOTE: While you can get perfectly good dumps with the 0800 method, it is cheaper to buy a [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: Xbox (original) & Xbox 360\|Kreon drive]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].
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User7 at 02:36, 11 November 2024

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-	\| NOTE: While you can get perfectly good dumps with the 0800 method, it is cheaper to buy [[Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility#Xbox_.28Original.29_.26_Xbox_360\|Kreon ~~drives~~]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].	+	\| NOTE: While you can get perfectly good dumps with the 0800 method, it is cheaper to buy a [[Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility#Xbox_.28Original.29_.26_Xbox_360\|Kreon drive]] and dump using the [[Disc Dumping Guide (MPF)\|standard method]].
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