Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: CD
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A list of '''Optical disc drives compatible with the Compact Disc format''' (CD-ROM, CD-Audio, etc) which includes many retro console discs. | A list of '''Optical disc drives compatible with the Compact Disc format''' (CD-ROM, CD-Audio, etc) which includes many retro console discs. | ||
| - | See also: [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility]] and [[Optical Disc Drives: Incompatible]] | + | See also: [[Optical Disc Drive Compatibility]] and [[Optical Disc Drives: CD Incompatible]] |
==Plextor brand Drives== | ==Plextor brand Drives== | ||
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*For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with [[Redumper]] and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above. | *For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with [[Redumper]] and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above. | ||
| - | Please note that the below drive models are not sufficient to determine if your drive is compatible with the [[Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware | recommended custom firmware]], you can determine if it will be compatible by reading the [http://web.archive.org/web/20211108135730/https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/83QAAOSwIrBgrSQT/s-l1600.jpg sticker's manufacturing date] and the [https://web.archive.org/web/20211108135730/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg PCB date code] on your drive. PCB code '''JB7 2011.11.17''' and older designs are '''not''' [[Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware | cross-flashable to the recommended custom firmware]], but are acceptable for some single-track Data CDs if used with a firmware that supports scrambled reading. Before buying any of the drives below, ensure the date of production is mid 2015 or later ( | + | Please note that the below drive models are not sufficient to determine if your drive is compatible with the [[Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware | recommended custom firmware]], you can determine if it will be compatible by reading the [http://web.archive.org/web/20211108135730/https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/83QAAOSwIrBgrSQT/s-l1600.jpg sticker's manufacturing date] and the [https://web.archive.org/web/20211108135730/https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg PCB date code] on your drive. PCB code '''JB7 2011.11.17''' and older designs are '''not''' [[Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware | cross-flashable to the recommended custom firmware]], but are acceptable for some single-track Data CDs if used with a firmware that supports scrambled reading. Before buying any of the drives below, ensure the date of production is mid 2015 or later (circular sticker), with a PCB code '''JB8 2015.05.08'''. |
Also note that only certain firmware versions will work with Redumper and/or DiscImageCreator. The below firmware versions are known official firmware versions that support scrambled reading, however they are not all currently supported by Redumper out-of-the-box (will work with custom flags). Other MT1959-based drives with firmware that supports scrambled reading may be acceptable given further testing, however they should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump. | Also note that only certain firmware versions will work with Redumper and/or DiscImageCreator. The below firmware versions are known official firmware versions that support scrambled reading, however they are not all currently supported by Redumper out-of-the-box (will work with custom flags). Other MT1959-based drives with firmware that supports scrambled reading may be acceptable given further testing, however they should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump. | ||
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| - | | Asus BW-16D1HT ^|| 3.00, 3.02 || Recommended, well tested. "PRO" | + | | Asus BW-16D1HT ^|| 3.00, 3.02 || Recommended, well tested. "BW-16D1HT PRO" model is identical. |
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| LG WH16NS40 ^|| 1.02 || | | LG WH16NS40 ^|| 1.02 || | ||
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| - | ^ Older productions of these drives (PCB code '''JB7 | + | ^ Older productions of these drives (PCB code '''JB7 2011.11.17''') are not [[Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware | cross-flashable to the recommended custom firmware]]. |
'''Technical Note''': In theory, the JB8 drives with good firmware can produce good dumps for mixed-mode CDs when there is a negative combined offset (disc write offset of less than -6, as JB8 has a read offset of +6). DIC and Redumper are able to dump CDs with greater than -6 write offset by reading the drive's cache, however it is not always reliable. The recommended custom firmware avoids having to read from the cache to dump discs with any write offset (as well as enables unlimited lead-out reading), therefore a JB8 drive with the custom firmware should in theory produce good dumps for any mixed-mode CD. The only technical limitation for audio CDs is the inability to read the first 15 of the 150 sectors in the pregap. This is not a problematic limitation however as the majority of audio CDs do not have audio data that far into the pregap, and [[Redumper]] can alert the user for CDs where this occurs. Despite all this, all discs should be dumped twice to ensure matching hashes, and Redump is not currently accepting new submissions for mixed-mode or audio CDs using JB8 drives until further testing is done to obtain the same level of confidence as Plextor dumps. For more info, see the detailed notes at [[Compatible LG/ASUS Optical Drives]] | '''Technical Note''': In theory, the JB8 drives with good firmware can produce good dumps for mixed-mode CDs when there is a negative combined offset (disc write offset of less than -6, as JB8 has a read offset of +6). DIC and Redumper are able to dump CDs with greater than -6 write offset by reading the drive's cache, however it is not always reliable. The recommended custom firmware avoids having to read from the cache to dump discs with any write offset (as well as enables unlimited lead-out reading), therefore a JB8 drive with the custom firmware should in theory produce good dumps for any mixed-mode CD. The only technical limitation for audio CDs is the inability to read the first 15 of the 150 sectors in the pregap. This is not a problematic limitation however as the majority of audio CDs do not have audio data that far into the pregap, and [[Redumper]] can alert the user for CDs where this occurs. Despite all this, all discs should be dumped twice to ensure matching hashes, and Redump is not currently accepting new submissions for mixed-mode or audio CDs using JB8 drives until further testing is done to obtain the same level of confidence as Plextor dumps. For more info, see the detailed notes at [[Compatible LG/ASUS Optical Drives]] | ||
[[Category:Optical Disc Drives]] | [[Category:Optical Disc Drives]] | ||
Latest revision as of 04:24, 15 December 2024
A list of Optical disc drives compatible with the Compact Disc format (CD-ROM, CD-Audio, etc) which includes many retro console discs.
See also: Optical Disc Drive Compatibility and Optical Disc Drives: CD Incompatible
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Plextor brand Drives
Proper CD dumping requires optical disc drives to support a range of features. Certain models of Plextor brand drives in particular are most compatible and reliable.
Best Plextor Models: Easiest & Recommended
Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.
| Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Premium | Premium | Premium-U | The Premium is sometimes referred to as the PX-W5232TA. | Yes | |||
| Premium2 | Premium2 | Premium2U | ? | ||||
| PX-708 | PX-708A | PX-708UF | The PX-704A is seemingly a cut-down PX-708A, only sold in China and rebadged in Japan (Buffalo DVM-H44FB, Kuroutoshikou DVDRWX4244PX). The PX-704A is not yet tested, buy with caution. | ? | |||
| PX-712 | PX-712A | PX-712SA | PX-712UF | The PX-708A2 / PX-708UF2 is seemingly a cut-down PX-712A / PX-712UF2. The PX-708A2 / PX-708UF2 is not yet tested, buy with caution. | ? | ||
| PX-716 | PX-716A Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS PX-716AL | PX-716SA | Buffalo DVM-DM16U2 | PX-716UF PX-716UFL | Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS / DVM-DM16U2 are rebadges of the PX-716A. The China-only PX-714A is seemingly a cut-down PX-716A. The PX-714A is not yet tested, buy with caution. | Yes | |
| PX-755 | PX-755A | PX-755SA | PX-755UF | Yes | |||
| PX-760 | PX-760A | PX-760SA | PX-760AUF | Yes | |||
| PX-W4012 | PX-W4012A PX-W4012TA | PX-W4012S PX-W4012TS | PX-W4012U PX-W4012TU | Yes | |||
| PX-W5224 | PX-W5224A PX-W5224TA | PX-W5224TU | Yes |
Plextor Drives with Known Limitations
Exercise caution, read notes before buying.
| Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PX-W4824 | PX-W4824A PX-W4824TA | PX-W4824U PX-W4824TU | Not recommended to buy for dumping many Audio CDs / Enhanced CDs: 1. Unable to read full lead-in (only 1 second of pregap is available) 2. Some reports of issues with CD-Text on Multisession CDs Otherwise, PX-W4824 dumps are still acceptable for most Audio CDs. | Partial |
Plextor Drives with Severe Limitations
DO NOT BUY! Some of these may be technically supported and capable of dumping certain types of CDs, but have various limitations or potential issues so are not recommended.
| Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PX-40 | PX-40TS | Scrambled mode is slow, no 0xBE opcode support (0xD8 only) | ? | ||||
| PX-W1210 | PX-W1210TS | Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into. | ? | ||||
| PX-W4220T | PX-W4220T | Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into. | ? |
¹ Multisession support is regarded as compatible and accepted through the Redumper dumping tool.
Notes regarding specific drives and capabilities
- IDE models can be used on laptops or desktops using a USB Adapter. UGREEN / Kingwin brands are often recommended but anything using the Innostor IS611 chipset
- Additionally, IDE models can be used on a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or with a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce).
- SATA drives can be hard to find or expensive, it may be easier to buy an IDE model + IDE->USB adapter. Note that most IDE adapters also support SATA drives also.
- SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).
Suggested eBay search terms
To search ebay quickly, you can use the following searches. Only use one at a time, as otherwise the search text will be too long and it'll give an error.
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(PX-760AUF, PX-755UF, PX-716UF, PX-716UFL, PX-712UF, PX-708UF, PX-708UF2, Plextor Premium2U, Plextor Premium-U, PX-W5224TU, PX-W4012TU, PX-760SA, PX-716SA, PX-712SA, PX-760A, PX-755A, PX-716A) -
(DVM-DM16FBS, PX-716AL, PX-712A, PX-708A, PX-704A, DVM-H44FB, Plextor Premium2, Plextor Premium, PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA, PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U, PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS)
LG & ASUS Drives
Plextors are preferable, as more testing is needed for these.
- Dumps from the following drives (with good firmware) will be accepted under the following circumstances:
- They are new discs or verifications of CDs consisting only of a single data track
- They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
- For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with Redumper and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.
Please note that the below drive models are not sufficient to determine if your drive is compatible with the recommended custom firmware, you can determine if it will be compatible by reading the sticker's manufacturing date and the PCB date code on your drive. PCB code JB7 2011.11.17 and older designs are not cross-flashable to the recommended custom firmware, but are acceptable for some single-track Data CDs if used with a firmware that supports scrambled reading. Before buying any of the drives below, ensure the date of production is mid 2015 or later (circular sticker), with a PCB code JB8 2015.05.08.
Also note that only certain firmware versions will work with Redumper and/or DiscImageCreator. The below firmware versions are known official firmware versions that support scrambled reading, however they are not all currently supported by Redumper out-of-the-box (will work with custom flags). Other MT1959-based drives with firmware that supports scrambled reading may be acceptable given further testing, however they should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump.
Half-height SATA drive models
| Model | Compatible Firmware | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Asus BC-12D2HT ^ | 3.00 | Not recommended: BD Reader only, cross-flashing may be difficult. |
| Asus BW-16D1HT ^ | 3.00, 3.02 | Recommended, well tested. "BW-16D1HT PRO" model is identical. |
| LG BH14NS58 | 1.00 | |
| LG BH16NS40 ^ | 1.00, 1.02, 1.03 | |
| LG BH16NS55 | 1.00, 1.01, 1.02 | |
| LG BH16NS58 | 1.00 | |
| LG UH12NS40 | 1.00 | Not recommended: BD Reader only, cross-flashing may be difficult. |
| LG WH14NS40 ^ | 1.00, 1.01, 1.02 | |
| LG WH16NS40 ^ | 1.02 |
^ Older productions of these drives (PCB code JB7 2011.11.17) are not cross-flashable to the recommended custom firmware.
Technical Note: In theory, the JB8 drives with good firmware can produce good dumps for mixed-mode CDs when there is a negative combined offset (disc write offset of less than -6, as JB8 has a read offset of +6). DIC and Redumper are able to dump CDs with greater than -6 write offset by reading the drive's cache, however it is not always reliable. The recommended custom firmware avoids having to read from the cache to dump discs with any write offset (as well as enables unlimited lead-out reading), therefore a JB8 drive with the custom firmware should in theory produce good dumps for any mixed-mode CD. The only technical limitation for audio CDs is the inability to read the first 15 of the 150 sectors in the pregap. This is not a problematic limitation however as the majority of audio CDs do not have audio data that far into the pregap, and Redumper can alert the user for CDs where this occurs. Despite all this, all discs should be dumped twice to ensure matching hashes, and Redump is not currently accepting new submissions for mixed-mode or audio CDs using JB8 drives until further testing is done to obtain the same level of confidence as Plextor dumps. For more info, see the detailed notes at Compatible LG/ASUS Optical Drives
