Optical Disc Drive Compatibility: CD

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Compatible

Recommended Plextor Models: Easiest & Recommended

Proper CD dumping requires optical disc drives to support a range of features. Certain models of Plextor brand drives in particular are most compatible and reliable.

Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.

Plextor Drives with Known Limitations (exercise caution, read notes before buying)

Plextor Drives with Severe Limitations (DO NOT BUY):

Some of these may be technically supported and capable of dumping certain types of CDs, but have various limitations or potential issues so are not recommended.

¹ Multisession support is regarded as compatible and accepted through the Redumper dumping tool.

Notes regarding specific drives and capabilities

• IDE models can be used on laptops or desktops using a USB Adapter. UGREEN / Kingwin brands are often recommended but anything using the Innostor IS611 chipset
• Additionally, IDE models can be used on a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or with a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce).
• SATA drives can be hard to find or expensive, it may be easier to buy an IDE model + IDE->USB adapter. Note that most IDE adapters also support SATA drives also.
• SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).

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To search ebay quickly, you can use the following searches. Only use one at a time, as otherwise the search text will be too long and it'll give an error.

• (PX-760AUF, PX-755UF, PX-716UF, PX-716UFL, PX-712UF, PX-708UF, PX-708UF2, Plextor Premium2U, Plextor Premium-U, PX-W5224TU, PX-W4012TU, PX-760SA, PX-716SA, PX-712SA, PX-760A, PX-755A, PX-716A)
• (DVM-DM16FBS, PX-716AL, PX-712A, PX-708A, PX-704A, DVM-H44FB, Plextor Premium2, Plextor Premium, PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA, PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U, PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS)

LG/ASUS ODDs (Plextors are preferable, as more testing is needed for these)

• Dumps from the following drives (with good firmware) will be accepted under the following circumstances:
  • They are new discs or verifications of CDs consisting only of a single data track
  • They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
• For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with Redumper and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.

Please note that the below drive models are not sufficient to determine if your drive is compatible, you can determine if it will be compatible by reading the sticker's manufacturing date and the PCB date code on your drive. JB7 and older designs are not supported. Before buying any of drives below make sure the date of production is mid 2015 or later (2016 if you want to be safe), with a PCB date code of 2015.05.08.

Also note that only certain firmware versions will work with Redumper and/or DiscImageCreator (i.e. must support OpCode 0xF1). The below firmware versions are known official firmware versions that support OpCode 0xF1, however they are not all currently supported by Redumper out-of-the-box (will work with custom flags). See Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware for info on cross-flashing custom BW-16D1HT firmware that is recommended for dumping CDs.

Half-height SATA drive models

Other drive models with the MT1959 chipset and HLDS JB8 motherboard may also be cross-compatible with known good firmware, however they have not been tested so we cannot prove they will be acceptable for Redump submission.

Technical Note: In theory, the JB8 drives with good firmware can produce good dumps for mixed-mode CDs when there is a negative combined offset (disc write offset of less than -6, as JB8 has a read offset of +6). Ribshark's firmware avoids having to read from the cache altogether (as well as unlimited lead-out reading), therefore a JB8 drive with that firmware should in theory produce good dumps for any mixed-mode CD. The only limitation for audio CDs is the inability to read the first 15 of the 150 sectors in the lead-in. This is not a problematic limitation however as the majority of audio CDs do not have audio data that far into the lead-in, and Redumper can alert the user for CDs where this occurs. Despite all this, all discs should be dumped twice to ensure matching hashes, and Redump is not currently accepting new submissions for mixed-mode or audio CDs using JB8 drives with Ribshark's firmware until further testing is done to obtain the same level of confidence as Plextor dumps. For more info, see the detailed notes at Compatible LG/ASUS Optical Drives

Incompatible

NOTE: Dumps made using these drives will not currently be accepted. They should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump.

The following text/table is WIP (Work-in-Progress)!

• Could every ODD that supports M-Disc DVDs [1] and has a MediaTek (maybe even Renesas) chipset have at least one firmware version (even from a rebadged model) that support reading cache backwards and forward (OpCode: 0xF1)?

Additional drive brands may work, some with limitations (such as can only read discs with a negative write-offset). A few LG/ASUS BD drives are also compatible with redumper dumping methods, but they do need to be flashed with the ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.10 RibShark firmware. Note: not all listed models have been (known) tested with DIC yet, please share your results.

Currently Not Recommended ODDs

Standard dumping procedure (Asus / HP / LG / Lite-On / Philips & Lite-On / Pioneer / Sony / Sony Optiarc / TEAC ODDs).

Swap disc method

Lite-On / HL-DT-ST / Optiarc / TSSTcorp ODDs. Warning: When the case is off, don't look at the laser in the drive!

• ¹ C2flag: 0 = No C2 support. EDC/ECC errors could occur when the C2 algorithm and/or OPU (laser) is bad (noted as awful).

End of text/table which is WIP (Work-in-Progress).