Optical Disc Drive Compatibility

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Some disc formats require certain drive models to dump to Redump standards. This page aims to provide a comprehensive guide on which drives can be used for dumping various formats of optical media.

DVD-Video / DVD-ROM

DVD-Video and DVD-ROM dumping is supported with virtually ANY drive that supports the DVD format. New discs should be dumped twice to verify matching hashes between the dumps.

CD-ROM / CD-Audio

Plextors ODDs: Easiest & Recommended

Proper CD dumping requires optical disc drives to support a range of features. Certain models of Plextor brand drives in particular are most compatible and reliable. Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.

Recommended Plextor Drives:

Plextor Drives with Limitations (DO NOT BUY):

Some of these may be technically supported and capable of dumping certain types of CDs, but have various limitations or potential issues so are not recommended.

¹ Multisession support is regarded as compatible and accepted through the Redumper dumping tool.

Notes regarding specific drives and capabilities

• IDE models can be used on laptops or desktops using a USB Adapter. UGREEN / Kingwin brands are often recommended but anything using the Innostor IS611 chipset (Googling "IS611 USB3.0-SATA+IDE Bridge Controller" will show several listings under different brand names) should work fine. Additionally a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce) can also be used.
• SATA drives can be very hard to find or expensive, it's often easier to just buy an IDE model + IDE > USB adapter. Note that most adapters mentioned for IDE models also support SATA and can be used with these drives also.
• SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).

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• (PX-760AUF, PX-755UF, PX-716UF, PX-716UFL, PX-712UF, PX-708UF, PX-708UF2, Plextor Premium2U, Plextor Premium-U, PX-W5224TU, PX-W4012TU, PX-760SA, PX-716SA, PX-712SA, PX-760A, PX-755A, PX-716A)
• (DVM-DM16FBS, PX-716AL, PX-712A, PX-708A, PX-704A, DVM-H44FB, Plextor Premium2, Plextor Premium, PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA, PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U, PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS)

Non-Plextor ODDs (Plextors are preferable, as more testing is needed for these)

NOTES:

• Additional testing and analysis is still needed to determine if these drives can consistently dump media with verifiable/acceptable hashes, and at this time, submissions may not be accepted. Please contact a redump mod with any questions prior to purchasing or dumping with one of these drives.
• Dumps from the following drives will be accepted under the following circumstances:
  • They are from CDs consisting only of a single data track
  • They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
• For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with redumper and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.
• List is still WIP at the moment, please check the Notes section before getting access to these ODDs until we've tested all five PCB Revisions from LG (HL-DT-ST).
• Could every ODD that supports M-Disc DVDs [1] and has a MediaTek (maybe even Renesas) chipset have at least one firmware version (even from a rebadged model) that support reading cache backwards and forward (OpCode: 0xF1)?
• Additional drive brands may work, some with limitations (such as can only read discs with a negative write-offset). A few LG/Asus BD drives are also compatible with DIC dumping methods, but they do need to be flashed with the Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 firmware. Note: not all listed models have been (known) tested with DIC yet, please share your results.
• The following text/table is WIP (Work-in-Progress).

Not Recommended ODDs

NOTE: Dumps made using these drives will not currently be accepted. They should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump.

List of Unsupported Drives

GD-ROM

GDs contain two distinctly different "Areas" of data ("LD Area" and "HD Area"), separated by a ring. Both Areas are dumped with a separate process.

For dumping the LD Area, the same rules apply as in dumping a CD as they use the same technology. The list of compatible drives for dumping LD Area is above #CD-ROM_.2F_CD-Audio and follow the Disc Dumping Guide (MPF).

The HD Area dumping the process is different, and you need one of the drives below.

HD Area: GD-ROM (Pressed) - Recommended:

• Samsung TSSTCorp models:
  • TS-H353A aka SH-D163A
  • TS-H352C aka SH-D162C

HD Area: GD-R (Burned Preproduction) - Working to some at least extent (WARNING: needs significant additional testing):

• Plextor: PX-708A, PX-755A, PX-755SA, PX-4012TA[2]
• For additional research on compatibility, see Optical Disc Drive Compatibility for GD-ROM and GD-R Dumping.

PlayStation 3 & 4

Can Dump PS3 Discs, CAN Key Extract PS3.

• Sony PlayStation 3 Console with Custom Firmware - Recommended method for PS3 Key Extract.
• Sony PlayStation 3 stock drive[3] + stock drive adapter to 3k3y ripper + 3k3y ripper device.

Can Dump PS3/PS4 Discs, CANNOT Key Extract PS3

Compatible drive list sourced from here.

• Asus models: BC-08B1LT, BC-16D1HT, BC-12B1ST b ('BC-12B1ST' and 'BC-12B1ST a' are not supported), BC-12D2HT, BW-12B1ST, BW-12B1ST a, BW-16D1HT
• BenQ BR1000
• HP models: bd335e, bd335i
• LG models: BH14NS40, BH14NS58, BH16NS40, BH16NS48, BH16NS55, BH16NS58, BP50NB40, UH12NS30, UH12NS40, WH14NS40, WH16NS40, WH16NS48, WH16NS60
• Lite-On models: DH-4O1S, DH-8B2SH, DH-12B2SH, DS-4E1S, iHBS112 2, iHBS312 2
• Optiarc BD-5300S
• Plextor models: PX-B950SA, PX-B950UE
• Samsung SE-506CB
• Sony BWU-500S
• TEAC BD-W512GSA

Other MediaTek-based BD drives may work, but are untested. Only the above drives are confirmed.

PlayStation 5 (UHD-BD-ROM)

Hypothetically any drive with UHD-BD-ROM support should work for this. (Unconfirmed)

Confirmed Drives:

• ASUS BW-16D1HT (FW 3.02~3.10) (Maybe other FW too)

Xbox (Original) & Xbox 360

• "Kreon" Samsung TSSTCorp Models:
  • SATA models:
    • SH-D163A aka TS-H353A
    • SH-D163B aka TS-H353B
  • IDE models:
    • SH-D162C aka TS-H352C aka SD-M2012C(?)
    • SH-D162D aka TS-H352D
• 0800 OEM drive

Xbox One & Xbox Series X

For compatibilty discussion see[4]

Note: If you have a blu-ray drive on hand, test to see if it reads an Xbox One disc first as it could be an unknown compatible drive.

• Philips & Lite-On (Slimtype) DS-4E1S (BD E DS4E1S)
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-206D
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-208D
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-212M (Needs Testing, Able to navigate disc, BD25/50 compat unknown)
• Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S: Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs (overdumps BD-50 discs).
• Pioneer BD-ROM BDC-TD03VA (BDC-TD03): Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs.

HD DVD-ROM

List sourced from: https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_HD_DVD_devices

Confirmed Compatible:

• Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive [Toshiba SD-S802A (Slim IDE Connector)] (External, USB)
• LG GGC-H20L (Internal, SATA)

Untested:

Internal Drives:

• Asus HR-0205T
• Buffalo Technology HDV-ROM2.4FB
• Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316FBS-BK
• I-O Data BRD-SH6B
• LG GGC-H20N
• LG GGW-H10NI
• LG GGW-H20L
• NEC HR-1100A
• Plextor PX-B300SA
• Plextor PX-B920SA
• Toshiba SD-H802A
• Toshiba SD-H902A
• Toshiba SD-H903A

Internal Slim Drives:

• Toshiba TS-L802A
• Toshiba SD-L802B
• Toshiba SD-L803A
• Toshiba SD-L902A
• Toshiba SD-L912A

External Drives:

• Addonics ZEBRA Blu-ray / HD DVD Player
• Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316U2
• HP HD100
• I-O Data BRD-UXH6
• LG BE06LU10
• One Technologies AluWRITER Blu-ray
• OWC SW-5583
• OWC SW-5583T
• Plextor PX-B920UF
• Toshiba PA3530U-1HD1