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Some disc formats require certain drive models to dump to Redump standards. This page aims to provide a comprehensive guide on which drives can be used for dumping various formats of optical media.

DVD-Video / DVD-ROM

DVD-Video and DVD-ROM dumping is supported with virtually ANY drive that supports the DVD format. New discs should be dumped twice to verify matching hashes between the dumps.

CD-ROM / CD-Audio

Plextors ODDs: Easiest & Recommended

Proper CD dumping requires optical disc drives to support a range of features. Certain models of Plextor brand drives in particular are most compatible and reliable. Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.

Recommended Plextor Drives:

Model	IDE	SATA	SCSI	USB	USB/Firewire	Notes	Multisession¹
Premium	Premium			Premium-U			Yes
Premium2	Premium2			Premium2U			?
PX-704	PX-704A Buffalo DVM-H44FB					Buffalo DVM-H44FB is a rebadge/clone of PX-704A	?
PX-708	PX-708A				PX-708UF		?
PX-712	PX-712A	PX-712SA			PX-712UF		?
PX-716	PX-716A Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS PX-716AL	PX-716SA			PX-716UF PX-716UFL	Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS is a rebadge/clone of PX-716A	Yes
PX-755	PX-755A	PX-755SA			PX-755UF		Yes
PX-760	PX-760A	PX-760SA			PX-760AUF		Yes
PX-W4012	PX-W4012A PX-W4012TA		PX-W4012S PX-W4012TS	PX-W4012U PX-W4012TU			Yes
PX-W5224	PX-W5224A PX-W5224TA			PX-W5224TU			Yes

Plextor Drives with Known Limitations (exercise caution, read notes before buying)

Model	IDE	SATA	SCSI	USB	USB/Firewire	Notes	Multisession¹
PX-W4824	PX-W4824A PX-W4824TA			PX-W4824U PX-W4824TU		Not recommended for Audio CD/Enhanced CD. Unable to read full lead-in (only 1 second of pregap is available) and has issues reading CD-TEXT	No

Plextor Drives with Severe Limitations (DO NOT BUY):

Some of these may be technically supported and capable of dumping certain types of CDs, but have various limitations or potential issues so are not recommended.

Model	SCSI	Notes	Multisession¹
PX-40	PX-40TS	Scrambled mode is slow	?
PX-W1210	PX-W1210TS	Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into.	?
PX-W4220T	PX-W4220T	Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into.	?

¹ Multisession support is regarded as compatible and accepted through the Redumper dumping tool.

Notes regarding specific drives and capabilities

IDE models can be used on laptops or desktops using a USB Adapter. UGREEN / Kingwin brands are often recommended but anything using the Innostor IS611 chipset (Googling "IS611 USB3.0-SATA+IDE Bridge Controller" will show several listings under different brand names) should work fine. Additionally a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce) can also be used.
SATA drives can be very hard to find or expensive, it's often easier to just buy an IDE model + IDE > USB adapter. Note that most adapters mentioned for IDE models also support SATA and can be used with these drives also.
SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).

Suggested eBay search terms

To search ebay quickly, you can use the following searches. Only use one at a time, as otherwise the search text will be too long and it'll give an error.

(PX-760AUF, PX-755UF, PX-716UF, PX-716UFL, PX-712UF, PX-708UF, PX-708UF2, Plextor Premium2U, Plextor Premium-U, PX-W5224TU, PX-W4012TU, PX-760SA, PX-716SA, PX-712SA, PX-760A, PX-755A, PX-716A)
(DVM-DM16FBS, PX-716AL, PX-712A, PX-708A, PX-704A, DVM-H44FB, Plextor Premium2, Plextor Premium, PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA, PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U, PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS)

LG Bluray drive with chipset MT1959HWDN (and clones)

Dumps from the following drives will be accepted under the following circumstances:
- They are from CDs consisting only of a single data track
- They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with redumper and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.

JB7 and older designs are not supported. Before buying any of drives below make sure the date of production is newer than 2015.05.08.

JB8 (2015.05.08) motherboard (requires flashing custom firmware)

Brand	Model	Form factor / interface	Notes
Asus	BC-12D2HT	Half height / SATA
Asus	BW-16D1HT (JB8)	Half height / SATA	Most recommended, as it's most well tested. Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
LG (HL-DT-ST)	BH14NS58	Half height / SATA
LG (HL-DT-ST)	BH16NS40 (JB8)	Half height / SATA	Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
LG (HL-DT-ST)	BH16NS55	Half height / SATA
LG (HL-DT-ST)	BH16NS58	Half height / SATA
LG (HL-DT-ST)	UH12NS40	Half height / SATA
LG (HL-DT-ST)	WH14NS40 (JB8)	Half height / SATA	Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
LG (HL-DT-ST)	WH16NS40	Half height / SATA

Instructions about flashing.

JB9 (2015.09.03) motherboard

Brand	Model	Form factor / interface	Notes
LG (HL-DT-ST)	WH16NS60	Half height / SATA	Doesn't require flashing

Not Recommended ODDs

NOTE: Dumps made using these drives will not currently be accepted. They should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump.

List of Unsupported Drives

GD-ROM

GDs contain two distinctly different "Areas" of data ("LD Area" and "HD Area"), separated by a ring. Both Areas are dumped with a separate process.

For dumping the LD Area, the same rules apply as in dumping a CD as they use the same technology. The list of compatible drives for dumping LD Area is above #CD-ROM_.2F_CD-Audio and follow the Disc Dumping Guide (MPF).

The HD Area dumping the process is different, and you need one of the drives below.

HD Area: GD-ROM (Pressed) - Recommended:

Samsung TSSTCorp models:
- TS-H353A aka SH-D163A
- TS-H352C aka SH-D162C

HD Area: GD-R (Burned Preproduction) - Working to some at least extent (WARNING: needs significant additional testing):

Plextor: PX-708A, PX-755A, PX-755SA, PX-4012TA[1]
For additional research on compatibility, see Optical Disc Drive Compatibility for GD-ROM and GD-R Dumping.

PlayStation 3 & 4

Can Dump PS3 Discs, CAN Key Extract PS3.

Sony PlayStation 3 Console with Custom Firmware - Recommended method for PS3 Key Extract.
Sony PlayStation 3 stock drive[2] + stock drive adapter to 3k3y ripper + 3k3y ripper device.

Can Dump PS3/PS4 Discs, CANNOT Key Extract PS3

Compatible drive list sourced from here.

Asus models: BC-08B1LT, BC-16D1HT, BC-12B1ST b ('BC-12B1ST' and 'BC-12B1ST a' are not supported), BC-12D2HT, BW-12B1ST, BW-12B1ST a, BW-16D1HT
BenQ BR1000
HP models: bd335e, bd335i
LG models: BH14NS40, BH14NS58, BH16NS40, BH16NS48, BH16NS55, BH16NS58, BP50NB40, UH12NS30, UH12NS40, WH14NS40, WH16NS40, WH16NS48, WH16NS60
Lite-On models: DH-4O1S, DH-8B2SH, DH-12B2SH, DS-4E1S, iHBS112 2, iHBS312 2
Optiarc BD-5300S
Plextor models: PX-B950SA, PX-B950UE
Samsung SE-506CB
Sony BWU-500S
TEAC BD-W512GSA

Other MediaTek-based BD drives may work, but are untested. Only the above drives are confirmed.

PlayStation 5 (UHD-BD-ROM)

Hypothetically any drive with UHD-BD-ROM support should work for this. (Unconfirmed)

Confirmed Drives:

ASUS BW-16D1HT (FW 3.02~3.10) (Maybe other FW too)

Xbox (Original) & Xbox 360

"Kreon" Samsung TSSTCorp Models:
- SATA models:
  - SH-D163A aka TS-H353A
  - SH-D163B aka TS-H353B
- IDE models:
  - SH-D162C aka TS-H352C aka SD-M2012C(?)
  - SH-D162D aka TS-H352D
0800 OEM drive

Xbox One & Xbox Series X

For compatibilty discussion see[3]

Note: If you have a blu-ray drive on hand, test to see if it reads an Xbox One disc first as it could be an unknown compatible drive.

Philips & Lite-On (Slimtype) DS-4E1S (BD E DS4E1S)
Pioneer BD-RW BDR-206D
Pioneer BD-RW BDR-208D
Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D
Pioneer BD-RW BDR-212M (Needs Testing, Able to navigate disc, BD25/50 compat unknown)
Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S: Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs (overdumps BD-50 discs).
Pioneer BD-ROM BDC-TD03VA (BDC-TD03): Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs.

HD DVD-ROM

List sourced from: https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_HD_DVD_devices

Confirmed Compatible:

Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive [Toshiba SD-S802A (Slim IDE Connector)] (External, USB)
LG GGC-H20L (Internal, SATA)

Untested:

Internal Drives:

Asus HR-0205T
Buffalo Technology HDV-ROM2.4FB
Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316FBS-BK
I-O Data BRD-SH6B
LG GGC-H20N
LG GGW-H10NI
LG GGW-H20L
NEC HR-1100A
Plextor PX-B300SA
Plextor PX-B920SA
Toshiba SD-H802A
Toshiba SD-H902A
Toshiba SD-H903A

Internal Slim Drives:

Toshiba TS-L802A
Toshiba SD-L802B
Toshiba SD-L803A
Toshiba SD-L902A
Toshiba SD-L912A

External Drives:

Addonics ZEBRA Blu-ray / HD DVD Player
Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316U2
HP HD100
I-O Data BRD-UXH6
LG BE06LU10
One Technologies AluWRITER Blu-ray
OWC SW-5583
OWC SW-5583T
Plextor PX-B920UF
Toshiba PA3530U-1HD1

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 ===LG Bluray drive with chipset MT1959HWDN (and clones)===
-==JB8==
-==JB9==
-===Non-Plextor ODDs (Plextors are preferable, as more testing is needed for these)===
-'''NOTES:'''
-*'''Additional testing and analysis is still needed to determine if these drives can consistently dump media with verifiable/acceptable hashes, and at this time, submissions may not be accepted.  Please contact a redump mod with any questions prior to purchasing or dumping with one of these drives.'''
 *Dumps from the following drives will be accepted under the following circumstances:
 **They are from CDs consisting only of a single data track
 **They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
 *For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with [[redumper]] and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.
-*List is still WIP at the moment, please check the Notes section before getting access to these ODDs until we've tested all five PCB Revisions from LG (HL-DT-ST).
-*Could every ODD that supports M-Disc DVDs [https://web.archive.org/web/20190528092523/http://www.mdisc.com/m-ready/] and has a MediaTek (maybe even Renesas) chipset have at least one firmware version (even from a rebadged model) that support reading cache backwards and forward (OpCode: 0xF1)?
+'''JB7''' and older designs are not supported. Before buying any of drives below make sure the date of production is newer than '''2015.05.08'''.
-*Additional drive brands may work, some with limitations (such as can only read discs with a negative write-offset). A few LG/Asus BD drives are also compatible with DIC dumping methods, '''but they do need to be [[Flashing with Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 firmware|flashed with the Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 firmware]]'''. Note: not all listed models have been (known) tested with DIC yet, please share your results.
-*The following text/table is WIP (Work-in-Progress).
+====JB8 (2015.05.08) motherboard (requires flashing custom firmware)====
 {| class="wikitable sortable"
-! scope="col" style="width: 90px;" | Brand || scope="col" style="width: 90px;" | Model || scope="col" style="width: 140px;" | Type (as written on the label) || scope="col" style="width: 110px;" | Form factor / interface || Firmware || Chipset(s) || Read offset || Cross-flashable to Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 (DE - Downgrade Enable) || Tested with DiscImageCreator || OpCode 0xF1 || Status of C2 support<sup>1</sup> || Supports CD-TEXT, MCN and ISRC || Range of supported Combined Write offset discs || Maximum effective CD speed (Scrambled mode) || PCB Revision || Notes
+! scope="col" style="width: 90px;" | Brand || scope="col" style="width: 120px;" | Model || scope="col" style="width: 140px;" | Form factor / interface || scope="col" style="width: 600px;" | Notes
 |-
 |-
-| Asus || BC-12D2HT || BD-ROM/DVD Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 3.00 --> 3.11 || N/A || +6 || Yes (but difficult) || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 3.00 (DE / Official), Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || N/A || N/A, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || Asus Label (circle) IDs: 90DD0230-B20000, 90DD0230-B20010.
+| Asus || BC-12D2HT || Half height / SATA ||
 |-
 |-
-| Asus || BW-16D1HT || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 3.00 --> 3.11 || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 3.00 (DE / Official), 3.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || 4.5x || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || Asus Label (circle) IDs: [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/83QAAOSwIrBgrSQT/s-l1600.jpg 90DD0200-B28000], 90DD0200-B30000, 90DD0200-B20010
+| Asus || BW-16D1HT (JB8) || Half height / SATA || Most recommended, as it's most well tested. Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH14NS58 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.01(?) || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes (more tests from olofolleola4 is needed) || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official)) || Yes. N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] ||
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH14NS58 || Half height / SATA ||
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS40 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.02(?) --> 1.04 || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Unknown || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || Yes. N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || -326928? --> +582? || N/A || Unknown (probably JB8 2015.05.08) || SVC CODE: NS50
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS40 (JB8) || Half height / SATA || Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS55 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.05 || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official), 1.01 (DE / Official), 1.02 (DE / Official)) || Yes. N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || SVC CODE: NS55
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS55 || Half height / SATA ||
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS58 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.01(?) || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes (more tests from olofolleola4 is needed) || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official)) || Yes. N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] ||
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || BH16NS58 || Half height / SATA ||
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || UH12NS40 || BD-ROM/DVD Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.01(?) || N/A || +6 || Yes (but difficult) || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official), Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || Yes. N/A || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || SVC CODE: NS40
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || UH12NS40 || Half height / SATA ||
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH14NS40 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.04 || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official), 1.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || Yes. Good || Yes, N/A, N/A || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || SVC CODE: NS50
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH14NS40 (JB8) || Half height / SATA || Exists older version of drive, which is not supported.
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH16NS40 || Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 --> 1.05 || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Yes || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.02 (DE / Official), maybe more?) || Yes. N/A || Yes, Yes, No || N/A || N/A || [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/429374270607720461/693522730414374932/IMG_20200328_190956.jpg JB8 2015.05.08] || SVC CODE: NS50
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH16NS40 || Half height / SATA ||
+|}
+[[Flashing with Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 firmware|Instructions about flashing.]]
+====JB9 (2015.09.03) motherboard====
+{| class="wikitable sortable"
+! scope="col" style="width: 90px;" | Brand || scope="col" style="width: 90px;" | Model || scope="col" style="width: 140px;" | Form factor / interface || scope="col" style="width: 300px;" | Notes
 |-
 |-
-| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH16NS60 || UHD Blu-ray Disc Rewriter || Half height / SATA || 1.00 (maybe more DE / Official firmwares?) || MediaTek ARM MT1959HWDN || +6 || Unknown || Yes || Yes (Firmware: 1.00 (DE / Official)) || N/A || N/A, N/A, N/A || N/A? --> +582? || N/A || JB9 2015.09.03 || SVC CODE: NS60
+| LG (HL-DT-ST) || WH16NS60 || Half height / SATA || Doesn't require flashing
 |}