Optical Disc Drive Compatibility
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Some disc formats require certain drive models to dump to Redump standards. This page aims to provide a comprehensive guide on which drives can be used for dumping various formats of optical media.
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DVD-Video / DVD-ROM
DVD-Video and DVD-ROM dumping is supported with virtually ANY drive that supports the DVD format. New discs should be dumped twice to verify matching hashes between the dumps.
CD-ROM / CD-Audio
Plextors ODDs: Easiest & Recommended
Proper CD dumping requires optical disc drives to support a range of features. Certain models of Plextor brand drives in particular are most compatible and reliable.
Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.
Recommended Plextor Drives:
Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
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Premium | Premium | Premium-U | Yes | ||||
Premium2 | Premium2 | Premium2U | ? | ||||
PX-704 | PX-704A Buffalo DVM-H44FB | Buffalo DVM-H44FB is a rebadge/clone of PX-704A | ? | ||||
PX-708 | PX-708A | PX-708UF | ? | ||||
PX-712 | PX-712A | PX-712SA | PX-712UF | ? | |||
PX-716 | PX-716A Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS PX-716AL | PX-716SA | PX-716UF PX-716UFL | Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS is a rebadge/clone of PX-716A | Yes | ||
PX-755 | PX-755A | PX-755SA | PX-755UF | Yes | |||
PX-760 | PX-760A | PX-760SA | PX-760AUF | Yes | |||
PX-W4012 | PX-W4012A PX-W4012TA | PX-W4012S PX-W4012TS | PX-W4012U PX-W4012TU | Yes | |||
PX-W5224 | PX-W5224A PX-W5224TA | PX-W5224TU | Yes |
Plextor Drives with Known Limitations (exercise caution, read notes before buying)
Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
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PX-W4824 | PX-W4824A PX-W4824TA | PX-W4824U PX-W4824TU | Not recommended for Audio CD/Enhanced CD due to: 1. Unable to read full lead-in (only 1 second of pregap is available) 2. Some models hang when reading CD-TEXT on Multisession discs Otherwise, still acceptable for Audio CDs that are not the above cases. | Partial |
Plextor Drives with Severe Limitations (DO NOT BUY):
Some of these may be technically supported and capable of dumping certain types of CDs, but have various limitations or potential issues so are not recommended.
Model | IDE | SATA | SCSI | USB | USB/Firewire | Notes | Multisession¹ |
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PX-40 | PX-40TS | Scrambled mode is slow | ? | ||||
PX-W1210 | PX-W1210TS | Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into. | ? | ||||
PX-W4220T | PX-W4220T | Model may have firmware bugs that affect offset, needs to be looked into. | ? |
¹ Multisession support is regarded as compatible and accepted through the Redumper dumping tool.
Notes regarding specific drives and capabilities
- IDE models can be used on laptops or desktops using a USB Adapter. UGREEN / Kingwin brands are often recommended but anything using the Innostor IS611 chipset
- Additionally, IDE models can be used on a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or with a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce).
- SATA drives can be hard to find or expensive, it may be easier to buy an IDE model + IDE->USB adapter. Note that most IDE adapters also support SATA drives also.
- SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).
Suggested eBay search terms
To search ebay quickly, you can use the following searches. Only use one at a time, as otherwise the search text will be too long and it'll give an error.
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(PX-760AUF, PX-755UF, PX-716UF, PX-716UFL, PX-712UF, PX-708UF, PX-708UF2, Plextor Premium2U, Plextor Premium-U, PX-W5224TU, PX-W4012TU, PX-760SA, PX-716SA, PX-712SA, PX-760A, PX-755A, PX-716A)
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(DVM-DM16FBS, PX-716AL, PX-712A, PX-708A, PX-704A, DVM-H44FB, Plextor Premium2, Plextor Premium, PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA, PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U, PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS)
LG/ASUS ODDs (Plextors are preferable, as more testing is needed for these)
- Dumps from the following drives (with good firmware) will be accepted under the following circumstances:
- They are new discs or verifications of CDs consisting only of a single data track
- They are verifications of Data CDs that also have audio tracks
- For pure Audio CDs, we are presently only accepting dumps made with Redumper and drives from the list of Recommended Plextors above.
Please note that the below drive models are not sufficient to determine if your drive is compatible, you can determine if it will be compatible by reading the sticker's manufacturing date and the PCB date code on your drive. JB7 and older designs are not supported. Before buying any of drives below make sure the date of production is mid 2015 or later (2016 if you want to be safe), with a PCB date code of 2015.05.08.
Also note that only certain firmware versions will work with Redumper and/or DiscImageCreator (i.e. must support OpCode 0xF1). The below firmware versions are known official firmware versions that support OpCode 0xF1, however they are not all currently supported by Redumper out-of-the-box (will work with custom flags). See Flashing Asus BW-16D1HT firmware for info on cross-flashing custom BW-16D1HT firmware that is recommended for dumping CDs.
Half-height SATA drive models
Model | Compatible Firmware | Notes |
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Asus BC-12D2HT | 3.00 | Not recommended: BD Reader only, cross-flashing may be difficult. Older productions of this drive (typically before 2015.05.08) are not supported. |
Asus BW-16D1HT | 3.00, 3.02 | Recommended, well tested. Older productions of this drive (typically before 2015.05.08) are not supported. |
LG BH14NS58 | 1.00 | |
LG BH16NS40 | 1.02 | Older productions of this drive (typically before 2015.05.08) are not supported. |
LG BH16NS55 | 1.00, 1.01, 1.02 | |
LG BH16NS58 | 1.00 | |
LG UH12NS40 | 1.00 | Not recommended: BD Reader only, cross-flashing may be difficult. |
LG WH14NS40 | 1.00, 1.02 | Older productions of this drive (typically before 2015.05.08) are not supported. |
LG WH16NS40 | 1.02 | Older productions of this drive (typically before 2015.05.08) are not supported. |
Other drive models with the MT1959 chipset and HLDS JB8 motherboard may also be cross-compatible with known good firmware, however they have not been tested so we cannot prove they will be acceptable for Redump submission.
Technical Note: In theory, the JB8 drives with good firmware can produce good dumps for mixed-mode CDs when there is a negative combined offset (disc write offset of less than -6, as JB8 has a read offset of +6). Ribshark's firmware avoids having to read from the cache altogether (as well as unlimited lead-out reading), therefore a JB8 drive with that firmware should in theory produce good dumps for any mixed-mode CD. The only limitation for audio CDs is the inability to read the first 15 of the 150 sectors in the lead-in. This is not a problematic limitation however as the majority of audio CDs do not have audio data that far into the lead-in, and Redumper can alert the user for CDs where this occurs. Despite all this, all discs should be dumped twice to ensure matching hashes, and Redump is not currently accepting new submissions for mixed-mode or audio CDs using JB8 drives with Ribshark's firmware until further testing is done to obtain the same level of confidence as Plextor dumps. For more info, see the detailed notes at Compatible LG/ASUS Optical Drives
Not Recommended ODDs
NOTE: Dumps made using these drives will not currently be accepted. They should be purchased only by those willing to invest their time and money in testing and on the understanding that they may eventually prove to be incompatible for use by Redump.
GD-ROM
GDs contain two distinctly different "Areas" of data ("LD Area" and "HD Area"), separated by a ring. Both Areas are dumped with a separate process.
For dumping the LD Area, the same rules apply as in dumping a CD as they use the same technology. The list of compatible drives for dumping LD Area is above #CD-ROM_.2F_CD-Audio and follow the Disc Dumping Guide (MPF).
The HD Area dumping the process is different, and you need one of the drives below.
HD Area: GD-ROM (Pressed) - Recommended:
- Samsung TSSTCorp models:
- TS-H353A aka SH-D163A
- TS-H352C aka SH-D162C
HD Area: GD-R (Burned Preproduction) - Working to some at least extent (WARNING: needs significant additional testing):
- Plextor: PX-708A, PX-755A, PX-755SA, PX-4012TA[1]
- For additional research on compatibility, see Optical Disc Drive Compatibility for GD-ROM and GD-R Dumping.
PlayStation 3 & 4
Can Dump PS3 Discs, CAN Key Extract PS3.
- Sony PlayStation 3 Console with Custom Firmware - Recommended method for PS3 Key Extract.
- Sony PlayStation 3 stock drive[2] + stock drive adapter to 3k3y ripper + 3k3y ripper device.
Can Dump PS3/PS4 Discs, CANNOT Key Extract PS3
Compatible drive list sourced from here.
- Asus models: BC-08B1LT, BC-16D1HT, BC-12B1ST b ('BC-12B1ST' and 'BC-12B1ST a' are not supported), BC-12D2HT, BW-12B1ST, BW-12B1ST a, BW-16D1HT
- BenQ BR1000
- HP models: bd335e, bd335i
- LG models: BH14NS40, BH14NS58, BH16NS40, BH16NS48, BH16NS55, BH16NS58, BP50NB40, UH12NS30, UH12NS40, WH14NS40, WH16NS40, WH16NS48, WH16NS60
- Lite-On models: DH-4O1S, DH-8B2SH, DH-12B2SH, DS-4E1S, iHBS112 2, iHBS312 2
- Optiarc BD-5300S
- Plextor models: PX-B950SA, PX-B950UE
- Samsung SE-506CB
- Sony BWU-500S
- TEAC BD-W512GSA
Other MediaTek-based BD drives may work, but are untested. Only the above drives are confirmed.
PlayStation 5 (UHD-BD-ROM)
Hypothetically any drive with UHD-BD-ROM support should work for this. (Unconfirmed)
Confirmed Drives:
- ASUS BW-16D1HT (FW 3.02~3.10) (Maybe other FW too)
Note: Dumping UHD/BD-XL discs (e.g. PS5) using UHD friendly drives (e.g. ASUS BW-16D1HT), a 'sleep bug' can be encountered if the disc is idle in the drive for too long (e.g. if redumper is generating a skeleton, or if you leave it in the drive after dumping). It is safe to eject and re-insert the disc during redumper's skeleton/hash steps if the drive makes unusual noises while idle.
Xbox (Original) & Xbox 360
"Kreon" Samsung TSSTCorp Models:
- SATA models:
- SH-D163A aka TS-H353A
- SH-D163B aka TS-H353B
- IDE models:
- SH-D162C aka TS-H352C aka SD-M2012C(?)
- SH-D162D aka TS-H352D
Install Custom Kreon Firmware:
- Download the appropriate firmware for your model:
- Unzip the firmware software, open up the command line and cd (change directory) to it's location.
- Run the command: sfdnwin.exe -nocheck
- You'll get a pop up that says "-Nocheck Use!!!", click "OK" beneath it. This will open the SFDNWIN app.
- In the app, select your "Drive".
- Click the light-blue Folder icon in the upper left part of the app, then select the ".bin" file that came with the app.
- Click the green Folder icon.
- If successful you will be asked to restart your computer, do this.
Other Drive Models (more difficult):
Xbox One & Xbox Series X
For compatibilty discussion see[3]
Note: If you have a blu-ray drive on hand, test to see if it reads an Xbox One disc first as it could be an unknown compatible drive.
- Philips & Lite-On (Slimtype) DS-4E1S (BD E DS4E1S)
- Pioneer BD-RW BDR-206D
- Pioneer BD-RW BDR-208D
- Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D
- Pioneer BD-RW BDR-212M (Needs Testing, Able to navigate disc, BD25/50 compat unknown)
- Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S: Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs (overdumps BD-50 discs).
- Pioneer BD-ROM BDC-TD03VA (BDC-TD03): Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs.
HD DVD-ROM
List sourced from: https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_HD_DVD_devices
Confirmed Compatible:
- Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive [Toshiba SD-S802A (Slim IDE Connector)] (External, USB)
- LG GGC-H20L (Internal, SATA)
Untested:
Internal Drives:
- Asus HR-0205T
- Buffalo Technology HDV-ROM2.4FB
- Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316FBS-BK
- I-O Data BRD-SH6B
- LG GGC-H20N
- LG GGW-H10NI
- LG GGW-H20L
- NEC HR-1100A
- Plextor PX-B300SA
- Plextor PX-B920SA
- Toshiba SD-H802A
- Toshiba SD-H902A
- Toshiba SD-H903A
Internal Slim Drives:
- Toshiba TS-L802A
- Toshiba SD-L802B
- Toshiba SD-L803A
- Toshiba SD-L902A
- Toshiba SD-L912A
External Drives:
- Addonics ZEBRA Blu-ray / HD DVD Player
- Buffalo Technology BRHC-6316U2
- HP HD100
- I-O Data BRD-UXH6
- LG BE06LU10
- One Technologies AluWRITER Blu-ray
- OWC SW-5583
- OWC SW-5583T
- Plextor PX-B920UF
- Toshiba PA3530U-1HD1