Optical Disc Drive Compatibility

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DiscImageCreator (DIC) is a disc dumping program focusing on optimal redump-compatible disc dumping. Some formats require certain drive models to dump appropriately.

DVD-Video / DVD-Rom

DVD-Video and DVD-Rom dumping is supported with virtually ANY drive that supports the DVD format. For your first dump/submission, please dump twice to verify matching hashes for any potentially misbehaving DVD-Rom drives.

For Xbox OG and 360 see this drive list.

CD-Rom / CD-Audio

Plextor Method (Easier and the official Redump Recommended method)

CD format is particularly difficult, hardware support wise. Certain models of Plextor brand drives can dump with DIC flawlessly. Your drive should have the final firmware installed. The final firmware is linked below on archive.org for most models.

• USB / FireWire (IEEE 1394) Models:
  • PX-760AUF
  • PX-755UF
  • PX-716UF, PX-716UFL
  • PX-712UF
  • PX-708UF, PX-708UF2
• USB Models:
  • Premium2U
  • Premium-U
  • PX-W5224TU
  • PX-W4824TU (May have trouble with illegal ToC)
  • PX-W4012TU
• SATA Models. Note: These can be very hard to find or expensive, it's often easier to just buy an IDE model + IDE > USB adapter.
  • PX-760SA (Typically reads better than 71X and 70X models)
  • PX-755SA (Typically reads better than 71X and 70X models)
  • PX-716SA
  • PX-712SA
• IDE Models. Note: IDE models can be used on a Laptop with a USB Adapter (search "UGREEN USB to IDE Converter, USB 3.0 to IDE" OR "Kingwin IDE to USB" on Amazon - do NOT buy a cheap generic adapter), a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce).
  • PX-760 series: PX-760A (Typically reads better than 71X and 70X models)
  • PX-755 series: PX-755A (Typically reads better than 71X and 70X models)
  • PX-716 series: PX-716A, Buffalo DVM-DM16FBS (rebadge/clone of PX-716A), PX-716AL
  • PX-714 series:
  • PX-712 series: PX-712A
  • PX-708 series: PX-708A
  • PX-704 series: PX-704A, Buffalo DVM-H44FB (rebadge/clone of PX-704A)
  • Premium2 series: Premium2
  • Premium series: Premium
  • PX-W5224 series: PX-W5224A, PX-W5224TA
  • PX-W4824 series: PX-W4824A, PX-W4824TA, PX-W4824U
  • PX-W4012 series: PX-W4012A, PX-W4012TA, PX-W4012U
• SCSI Models: SCSI models can only be used with a Desktop tower with a cheap card (no laptops).
  • PX-W4012S, PX-W4012TS
  • PX-W1210TS (unsure if that model has firmware bugs regarding offset differences, sarami has been notified)
  • PX-W4220T (ditto)
  • PX-40TS (scrambled mode is slow)

The 7xx series of Plextor drives are the only drives currently supported by DIC for reading multisession discs. The 755 and 760 models typically have less issues reading discs.

The 5224 model has multisession capability, but that feature is currently not supported in DIC (this may change in the future).

WARNING: At present the drives below are still undergoing testing to ensure that verifiable, repeatable dumps can be produced and as such they are not recommended for use for Redump purposes at this time.

Work is ongoing to address the issues identified with these drives and we hope that in the near future they will be accepted for submission of new dumps.

As it stands, while dumps from these drives may be accepted on a case-by-case basis (in particular for verifications of existing dumps produced by a compatible Plextor drive), Redump staff would recommend that users wishing to contribute to the project purchase a Plextor drive from the list above.

Non-Plextor ODDs (Plextors are still recommended, as more testing is needed for these)

PLEASE NOTE: Additional testing and analysis is still needed to determine if these drives can consistently dump media with verifiable/acceptable hashes, and at this time, submissions may not be accepted. Please contact a redump mod with any questions prior to purchasing or dumping with one of these drives.

If you can't get one of the above Plextor models, this is your next best bet. List is still WIP at the moment, please check the Notes section before getting access to these ODDs until we've tested all five PCB Revisions from LG (HL-DT-ST).

The following text/table is WIP (Work-in-Progress)!

• Could every ODD that supports M-Disc DVDs [1] and has a MediaTek (maybe even Renesas) chipset have at least one firmware version (even from a rebadged model) that support reading cache backwards and forward (OpCode: 0xF1)?

Additional drive brands may work, some with limitations (such as can only read discs with a negative write-offset). A few LG/Asus BD drives are also compatible with DIC dumping methods, but they do need to be flashed with the Asus BW-16D1HT 3.02 firmware. Note: not all listed models have been (known) tested with DIC yet, please share your results.

Background color description

Currently non-recommended Non-Plextor ODDs

Standard dumping procedure (Asus / HP / LG / Lite-On / Philips & Lite-On / Pioneer / Sony / Sony Optiarc / TEAC ODDs).

Swap disc method

Lite-On / HL-DT-ST / Optiarc / TSSTcorp ODDs. Warning: When the case is off, don't look at the laser in the drive!

• ¹ C2flag: 0 = No C2 support. EDC/ECC errors could occur when the C2 algorithm and/or OPU (laser) is bad (noted as awful).

End of text/table which is WIP (Work-in-Progress).

GD-Rom

GDs are strange in that they contain two distinctly different "Areas" of data. What this means to you is that you will have to dump the disc's LD Area and HD Area separately. Unfortunately, this you will need special hardware

For dumping the LD Area, the same rules apply as in dumping a CD, as they use the same technology. The list of compatible drives for dumping LD Area is above #CD-Rom_.2F_CD-Audio and follow the Disc Dumping Guide (MPF).

Note: IDE Optical Disc Drive models can be used externally with a USB Adapter (search "UGREEN USB to IDE Converter, USB 3.0 to IDE" OR "Kingwin IDE to USB" on Amazon - do NOT buy a cheap generic adapter), or within a Desktop tower with a cheap card, or a 5.25" IDE USB enclosure (can be found on eBay or similar, but supply might be scarce).

HD Area: GD-Rom (Pressed)

But for the HD Area the process is different, and you need one of the following drives to dump it. In our testing, some drives worked better than others:

Recommended:

• Samsung TSSTCorp models:
  • SH-D163A aka TS-H353A (supports C2 for both Redbook Audio and Data tracks)
  • SH-D162C aka TS-H352C (Supports C2 for data tracks, not Redbook audio tracks)

Possibly Working (WARNING: needs significant additional testing)

• Samsung TSSTCorp models:
  • TS-H192C - Initial test indicates this drive works similarly as well as the Recommended Samsung TSSTCorp models.
• Plextor (can take advantage of DiscImageCreator's /c2 error correction):
  • Plextor PX-708A - WARNING!: some users reported success dumping the HD area of GD-ROMs with this model, but so far not enough tests have been done. It is not known if audio tracks in the HD area dump well (reports of success were only based on dumping 3-track discs) and there were also failure reports, so only get this drive to dump GD-ROMs if you are willing to experiment a lot (and possibly fail).

Untested, but rumored to work:

• Lite-On models: LH-18A1H, LTD-165H, SOHD-16P9S
• Plextor models: PX-W4824TA, PX-W4824TU
• Samsung TSSTCorp models: SH-D162D aka TS-H352D

Not Recommended or Don't Work:

• LG model: GCR-8522B - Works, but "slower and clunkier" than Recommended drive models.
• TEAC model: DV-516G - Works, but difficult to remove lid to swap discs, pin eject method doesn't seem to work.
• Lite-On model: SOHD-167T - difficult to remove lid to swap discs, pin eject method doesn't seem to work. When dumping, lots of issues, I couldn't get a single section to dump properly.
• NEC model: CDR-1901A - difficult to remove lid to swap discs, did not get matches in RevQuixo's test (needs more testing?)
• Samsung TSSTCorp models: TS-H353B aka SH-D163B (isn't as fast or match-friendly as TS-H353A & TS-H352C)
• Plextor models that don't work: PX-716A, PX-755SA, PX-W5224TA
• Asus models that don't work: BW-16D1HT

HD Area: GD-R (Burned Preproduction)

Appears promising, more testing required:

• Plextor: PX-708A, PX-4012TA[2]

CAUTION: although some initial success has been had with these drives, the process remains experimental and requires further testing before dumps made using this method are confirmed as consistently good.

Don't Work:

• Plextor:
  • PX-760A - Reads, but can possibly fail past a certain point near the end. Might just need a laser alignment (forcing the drive to read at a certain sector, with something like CDRwin).

PlayStation 3 & 4

Can Dump PS3 Discs, CAN Key Extract PS3.

• Sony PlayStation 3 Console with Custom Firmware - Recommended method for PS3 Key Extract.
• Sony PlayStation 3 stock drive[3] + stock drive adapter to 3k3y ripper + 3k3y ripper device.

Can Dump PS3/PS4 Discs, CANNOT Key Extract PS3 Compatible drive list sourced from here.

• Asus models: BC-08B1LT, BC-16D1HT, BC-12B1ST b, BC-12D2HT, BW-12B1ST, BW-12B1ST a, BW-16D1HT
• BenQ BR1000
• HP models: bd335e, bd335i
• LG models: BH14NS40, BH14NS58, BH16NS40, BH16NS48, BH16NS55, BH16NS58, BP50NB40, UH12NS30, UH12NS40, WH12LS30(has +667, please confirm by actual testing?), WH14NS40, WH16NS40, WH16NS48, WH16NS60
• Lite-On models: DH-4O1S, DH-8B2SH, DH-12B2SH, DS-4E1S, iHBS112 2, iHBS312 2
• Optiarc BD-5300S
• Plextor models: PX-B950SA, PX-B950UE
• Samsung SE-506CB
• Sony BWU-500S
• TEAC BD-W512GSA

Xbox original & Xbox 360

• "Kreon" Samsung TSSTCorp Models:
  • SATA models:
    • SH-D163A aka TS-H353A
    • SH-D163B aka TS-H353B
  • IDE models:
    • SH-D162C aka TS-H352C aka SD-M2012C(?)
    • SH-D162D aka TS-H352D
• 0800 drive flashed with custom firmware + Team Xecuter X360USB PRO

Xbox One

For compatibilty discussion see[4]

• Philips & Lite-On (Slimtype) DS-4E1S (BD E DS4E1S)
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-206D
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-208D
• Pioneer BD-RW BDR-209D
• Optiarc BD ROM BC-5500S: Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs (overdumps BD-50 discs).
• Pioneer BD-ROM BDC-TD03VA (BDC-TD03): Only compatible with single layer BD-25 discs, not double layer BD-50 discs.

HD DVD-ROM

Confirmed Compatible:

• Xbox 360 HD DVD Drive (External, USB)
• LG GGC-H20L (Internal Full, SATA)

Needs Testing:

• Buffalo BRHC-6316 / BRHC-6316U2 (External, USB)
• I-O Data BRD-UXH6 (External, USB/eSATA)
• Toshiba PA3530U-1HD1 (External, USB)
• Toshiba TS-L802A (Internal Slim, Enhanced IDE)
• Toshiba SD-L902A (Internal Slim, Enhanced IDE)
• Toshiba SD-H903A (Internal Full, SATA)
• LG GGW-H20L / BH20L (Internal Full, SATA)
• Plextor PX-B300SA (Internal Full, SATA)
• Plextor PX-B920SA (Internal Full, SATA)